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we have nato. steve felton berg, he said right before the summit, he said on nato states are fully prepared for a quote, new armed conflict in europe. i mean, what kind of language is that going into a summit? ok to de escalate tensions and all of that. and what is he, what does he mean by that? what i mean, how do you think he's defining what a military conflict is? because nato is already said, and the united states separately said, they're not going to intervene in ukraine. if there is a confrontation with russia. i mean, it seems to me a, as usual from the, the nato chief suttonberg this empty words. but it's loose rhetoric at the same time. go ahead, ernst, the new novi sat, i mean, they certainly, it doesn't seem like they have the house and all it is a stone back said one thing and white is quite the other. i didn't say that was in american troops on the ground. the cran events rush invasion which they keep talking about is not on the table. and britain's secretary of state for defense and w
we have nato. steve felton berg, he said right before the summit, he said on nato states are fully prepared for a quote, new armed conflict in europe. i mean, what kind of language is that going into a summit? ok to de escalate tensions and all of that. and what is he, what does he mean by that? what i mean, how do you think he's defining what a military conflict is? because nato is already said, and the united states separately said, they're not going to intervene in ukraine. if there is a...
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we have found that nato and we will go on trying to expand nato. not only will do we want to get you granted, georgia and we want to go into the caucasus and then for the far east. and i think that, and there's nothing that you can do about that plate. his attitude and russia said, yes, we're not going to accept it. and there is something we can do on that note. there we've run out of time many. thanks them i guess in london, budapest and no be sad. and thanks to our viewers are watching us here at r t. see you next time and remember process rules. ah, with join me every thursday on the alex simon. sure. i'll be speaking to guess in the world. politics, sport, business, i'm show business. i'll see you then. ah, a has always turned to the latest round of moscow security with the west rushes envoy to washington wounds. the remarks by us officials are an attempt to scatter the negotiations. also this our cut your past due start jumps. if you want to stable this winter, a major british energy company feels the heat for it supplies while fuel costs rock
we have found that nato and we will go on trying to expand nato. not only will do we want to get you granted, georgia and we want to go into the caucasus and then for the far east. and i think that, and there's nothing that you can do about that plate. his attitude and russia said, yes, we're not going to accept it. and there is something we can do on that note. there we've run out of time many. thanks them i guess in london, budapest and no be sad. and thanks to our viewers are watching us...
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there is no purpose for nato. i, you know, it's, it exists out of bureaucratic inertia, out of obedience to the united states, out of the drive for weapons sales to eastern europe, and out of the need to maintain this mysterious substance called credibility. oh, which is not maintained by keeping the promise not to expand nato by adhering to the anti ballistic missile treaty or the intermediate ranch treaty, or any agreements i even committing to maintain future commitments on that's all out the window has nothing to do with credibility. it's just belligerence, it's just hostility. i and that drive a risks, escalating this risks? conflict between nuclear governments. ok, this is what nato has become. you know, a brand. i mean, one of the things, it's very interesting to me because i'm old enough to remember from the oldest one on the program to remember is it, we had a process during the cold war, the helsinki final act, where it was rip, made it very clear that you know, security is indivisible, you cannot attain
there is no purpose for nato. i, you know, it's, it exists out of bureaucratic inertia, out of obedience to the united states, out of the drive for weapons sales to eastern europe, and out of the need to maintain this mysterious substance called credibility. oh, which is not maintained by keeping the promise not to expand nato by adhering to the anti ballistic missile treaty or the intermediate ranch treaty, or any agreements i even committing to maintain future commitments on that's all out...
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we ask, what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato eastward expansion? and what are the likely outcomes for both? i cross sucking nato russia. tensions. i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army and counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington, we have michael maloof. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now he is an expert at the russia council on international affairs as well as chief editor at r t t dot com. all right, general in cross hoc rules and effect that music and jumping any time you want. and i always appreciate, let's go to charles 1st in london. and i'm really sick and tired of all the misinformation and propaganda that is being spewed about these growing tensions. there are tensions, there's no doubt about that. okay. but, and how they're being characterized is really important for us on this program to set straight. so charles, i asked 3 questions in my introduction. what, what, what is, what is nato up to? what is the gamb
we ask, what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato eastward expansion? and what are the likely outcomes for both? i cross sucking nato russia. tensions. i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army and counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington, we have michael maloof. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now he is an expert at the russia council on...
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we cannot, neither can europe, neither can nato nato knows this. i've challenged anybody who's affiliated with nato. tell me how nato can mobilize armored core. in 10 days. you will never get an answer because they can't, they would be able to do it in 10 weeks. rush on the other hand, can put 2 combined arms army that are trained for deep offensive operations of in the field was in a week. this is the 1st garge tank army in the 20th combined army. oh, former cold war formation station to these germany that were dismantled, hold on one of your p and piece in the aftermath of the solution over warsaw pact to paul the so union. but we're brought back into being because of the expansion of nato. so nato, by expanding as triggered, russia couldn't afford armed formations, that can destroy nato in a heartbeat. and peter doesn't seem to realizes, absolutely, absolutely. and, and, and david, let me go to you. i mean, what are policy makers expecting here? because it seems to me when i look at the, the, the jake sullivans and they anthony blanket. i mean,
we cannot, neither can europe, neither can nato nato knows this. i've challenged anybody who's affiliated with nato. tell me how nato can mobilize armored core. in 10 days. you will never get an answer because they can't, they would be able to do it in 10 weeks. rush on the other hand, can put 2 combined arms army that are trained for deep offensive operations of in the field was in a week. this is the 1st garge tank army in the 20th combined army. oh, former cold war formation station to these...
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so what i think it's happening is the nato is trying to justify its own existence because nato, as we know, it was created for 3 purposes. depending western europe against soviet aggression. there is no soviet union, the more it was created to bring together rival powers of france, germany, the u. k. they're not rivals anymore. and it was created to keep americans inside the european politics, which did not happen after the world war one. so all of these aimed, all these goals are actually obsolete. europe was trying to get on foothold in europe, trying to decide its own face, trying to basically have a role in international politics. and, and they don't, is, is us, is it is, it basically is not helping right now. it's not helping anyone. it's dragging the us and europe into another war. it's trying to deny russia so, right for her don't security. and it's basically not helping anyone at this point. i think what we see as a historic historic moment where we can have the soul. russia, as you correctly said, russia have been saying the same thing. everything the same things were 20 or 3
so what i think it's happening is the nato is trying to justify its own existence because nato, as we know, it was created for 3 purposes. depending western europe against soviet aggression. there is no soviet union, the more it was created to bring together rival powers of france, germany, the u. k. they're not rivals anymore. and it was created to keep americans inside the european politics, which did not happen after the world war one. so all of these aimed, all these goals are actually...
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, even though it was in name and nato led operation, nato was ignored. and i think the same thing is happening over ukraine and russia. you're dealing with in very traditional terms, between the us and russia. but i also think that in the past, the been a lot of questions from not just the united states, but from specialists and from politicians in western europe, in particular saying, we don't understand russia. we don't understand what does russia want? and my view of these to treaty documents is that nobody know can complain that they don't know what russia wants. it spelt out there in black and white. that is what russia wants. and i would say that is an opening position. russia wouldn't expect to get everything that it's, it's a demanding illustrated documents, but i think they need to be studied because nobody can complain anymore. they don't know what russia we not. okay. george 20 seconds will good. did they actually care what russia wants? 20 seconds, george. i think they, those attitude, the russia has been you on, on the soviet union. you do n
, even though it was in name and nato led operation, nato was ignored. and i think the same thing is happening over ukraine and russia. you're dealing with in very traditional terms, between the us and russia. but i also think that in the past, the been a lot of questions from not just the united states, but from specialists and from politicians in western europe, in particular saying, we don't understand russia. we don't understand what does russia want? and my view of these to treaty...
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you have to say, well, whether it's nato in ukraine or whether it's ukraine in nato. the fact is that i think the americans are on record. this administration is on record. as saying that the u. s. nato would not fight for you cry. right. and that to me, that means that nato membership is not, it's certainly not imminent. and you go back to 2002008 the book rest summit, whether it's this huge disagreement between the americans on the one hand and some europeans, but or, or being in favor of ukraine and ga, joining, joining nato. and on the other hand, france, germany and some other nato members who are absolutely against. and they fudged the final statement to leave it open. whether that would be membership or not. and the fact is that in those years, 1213 years since there's actually been no progress on membership that those 2 countries. and i don't think the will be because that split still exists in later. yeah, but i mean george with it. that's a distinction without a difference. okay, because and, and i'm not disagreeing with mary, but it's a distinction without
you have to say, well, whether it's nato in ukraine or whether it's ukraine in nato. the fact is that i think the americans are on record. this administration is on record. as saying that the u. s. nato would not fight for you cry. right. and that to me, that means that nato membership is not, it's certainly not imminent. and you go back to 2002008 the book rest summit, whether it's this huge disagreement between the americans on the one hand and some europeans, but or, or being in favor of...
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no objective for nato and venus. united states will lose its super rossi in europe and the object if she is to fragment europe on to torpedo any reset between western europeans on russia, and in order to prevent mercy, pull our richie to emerge. pierre, and i know it's a man geopolitical expert. thank you very much for joining us on the program. we appreciate it now, just hours before the nato chief spoke, russia's foreign minister spelled out clearly that the country does not want war, sir, gala ralph reiterated moscow's position on escalating tensions with the west. however, he also noted moscow. com to stand by watching its interests being ignored. love rob shared his thoughts during a 90 minute interview to rush and journalists among them was our teeth editor in chief, margarita sim onion, his aunt, mister latter. i've had to say, yes, this is alicia authorities configured c. lately. if it depends on the russian federation, then there will be no war. we don't want any wars, but we will also not allow our interest
no objective for nato and venus. united states will lose its super rossi in europe and the object if she is to fragment europe on to torpedo any reset between western europeans on russia, and in order to prevent mercy, pull our richie to emerge. pierre, and i know it's a man geopolitical expert. thank you very much for joining us on the program. we appreciate it now, just hours before the nato chief spoke, russia's foreign minister spelled out clearly that the country does not want war, sir,...
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nato is all about. and they can never grasp what nato is. when it's viewed through, through the fruits in russia, west of the russian ice, russian perspective. and that is the problem that they're stuck in this cold war mentality, the mentality, they stock, their 2nd this and this mentality that is dictated by its own charter that as well . it says here in the document that it is a defensive alliance. how can it be offensive, alive? and yet that is, that is the problem that we have. and that is a problem i hope that can be solved by us actually by russia, actually talking to me, you know, and making this point across, you know, guys, ok, you are defensive. but take a look through this russian lance. maybe it's not as simple as you may made. sounds so i think, yeah, it's, i mean, even if you talk, but i want to you, alexei, all chance. yeah. like say no. no, but the europe you're absolutely right. and we can tear a page from the cold war because during the cold war, both sides looked at it to the lens of
nato is all about. and they can never grasp what nato is. when it's viewed through, through the fruits in russia, west of the russian ice, russian perspective. and that is the problem that they're stuck in this cold war mentality, the mentality, they stock, their 2nd this and this mentality that is dictated by its own charter that as well . it says here in the document that it is a defensive alliance. how can it be offensive, alive? and yet that is, that is the problem that we have. and that is...
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of nato. now it's 5 with you create and ga, potentially ascending in the future. the there essentially did to nato, that would be 7, almost half of russia's neighbors would be members of nato. and what that means, this is russia's concern, is that native infrastructure that is measles bases rockets would move closer and closer to russia. potentially hypersonic misaki, american hypersonic missiles, big station in ukraine, which is just a few minutes flight time for moscow, which for russia is completely unacceptable. that is where they have to order the red light. and they said all these, all these proposals to the united states and, and today. so we're now hearing a reaction from russian officials who have seen this document. it is, as was said, still confidential. the americans have asked the russian side nato shoe not to share the documents their response with the press. but the reaction that we have heard so far is, is disappointed. mon russian official has said that this is inadequate, but
of nato. now it's 5 with you create and ga, potentially ascending in the future. the there essentially did to nato, that would be 7, almost half of russia's neighbors would be members of nato. and what that means, this is russia's concern, is that native infrastructure that is measles bases rockets would move closer and closer to russia. potentially hypersonic misaki, american hypersonic missiles, big station in ukraine, which is just a few minutes flight time for moscow, which for russia is...
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and nato, to moscow's request. the security guarantees amid phase of a conflict in ukraine, in all the news countries across your keys there cove restrictions, despite near record high infection rate, while health officials get mixed signals on the threads of the only constraint. also ahead i would prefer to be la la la, will he now with british prime minister boys johnson's political life seemingly handled by a thread with the government inquiring to down the street. low down violation is expected to be released any day now. a separate police problem is also in the way with from moscow to the world, you're watching r t international, almost being quite a news day. my name is peter scott. it is great to have you with us and we start with some braking use. the u. s. a nate, so have given the written responses to russia to request the security guarantees. the american ambassador handed over the documents harry moscow on wednesday evening . but so far, the exact contents haven't been disclosed enough for a quick remin
and nato, to moscow's request. the security guarantees amid phase of a conflict in ukraine, in all the news countries across your keys there cove restrictions, despite near record high infection rate, while health officials get mixed signals on the threads of the only constraint. also ahead i would prefer to be la la la, will he now with british prime minister boys johnson's political life seemingly handled by a thread with the government inquiring to down the street. low down violation is...
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it's what a nato does as well. the thing is, the thing is, what has happened over the last few years in ukraine is indeed a red line for moscow and at nato headquarters that do know that because you know, a man i sold in berg, of course, he is a bone diplomat and whether he really believes what he says not is even relevant. i mean, he does, i think he does believe that's why he was selected for the, for his place, the secretary general. but the need to, in this specific case, i do not trust nato at all. when he switches not to say that i'm always certain on, on the russian side on it, just matters are always more complex than that. one would like to have it all read, read out in good guy, the bad guys, and a very clear line between a steady enough where the world does not work that way. now i do believe i do sincerely believe that the fact itself that was a must troops under cable, which it did, jack ruby did, has been, is a dire warning for against a nato. because what happens, in fact, is they have put the whole
it's what a nato does as well. the thing is, the thing is, what has happened over the last few years in ukraine is indeed a red line for moscow and at nato headquarters that do know that because you know, a man i sold in berg, of course, he is a bone diplomat and whether he really believes what he says not is even relevant. i mean, he does, i think he does believe that's why he was selected for the, for his place, the secretary general. but the need to, in this specific case, i do not trust...
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and if we speak about the nato, russia relations, what are the nato russia council is just in them? when you, as a very important was when you play and we don't rule out using them with us with gretchen tool you're not doing so considering the learning important status of that. so conversation with them with as the coordinator of with arms of control . i'm not activities with based on the resource of the 2nd organization. we need to be support on the structure of european secured with as it was described in our proposals. and if we are able to hear more from us, we'll start with this work and it will become clear how to use the other international organizations and other international formats as well. would you just like to emphasize that was not the 1st time we were doing something like that. you were about to seemingly as a real declaration for someone from thoughts that also elaborated a new russian american. a contact with other allies countries also taking a water fall back to you. none of us. some will stay new news like nothing. oh wait, i'm here at the time it is up us list.
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how is nato troops on its territory? what we did here from yen stalsen burg is the ukraine will not be housing nato troops whatsoever. now that could be something of interest to russia in any upcoming talks. and he did talk about upcoming talks installed in burg, saying that he was glad for the the meetings that had been had with representatives from moscow a couple of weeks ago. and that he wanted to see for meetings coming up in the coming weeks. both those meetings will be following on from the written responses to rushes. if security requests they were put to the united states on to nico, over the last few weeks, those written responses arrived on wednesday. in moscow, they haven't been, it would seem, walked. russia had really been hoping for on the major issues, particularly concerning nato expansion. but it does seem like there are also areas that that could be potentially some movement on particularly on the, on the, on the expansion on talk about on arms limitation treaties that could be talked about further. wh
how is nato troops on its territory? what we did here from yen stalsen burg is the ukraine will not be housing nato troops whatsoever. now that could be something of interest to russia in any upcoming talks. and he did talk about upcoming talks installed in burg, saying that he was glad for the the meetings that had been had with representatives from moscow a couple of weeks ago. and that he wanted to see for meetings coming up in the coming weeks. both those meetings will be following on from...
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well, the united, the net nato may want to provide a cyber security and they've offered ducks the nato package. that's one thing, but you're not going to have that, that. the interesting thing about this is that you, crane and even georgia really would not be allowed to become a full fledged member of nato because they have internal divisions within their own countries. and that is stipulated in the atlantic alliance of nato itself. so until those con, frozen conflicts are resolved and they cannot be admitted as a member. that said, what, what we're seeing is that they, they have nato has read, n u. s. has rejected even any attempt to try and limit of forward motion of, of nato toward the federation of that could be laid aside temporarily because of what i just stated about the, the a plot possibility of ukraine in georgia actually being admitted. it just, it just cannot happen as long as you have those frozen conflicts. but what they can do is go move on and create the buffer zones. they could create the they could talk about the limitation on any arm ship or, or creating of areas of
well, the united, the net nato may want to provide a cyber security and they've offered ducks the nato package. that's one thing, but you're not going to have that, that. the interesting thing about this is that you, crane and even georgia really would not be allowed to become a full fledged member of nato because they have internal divisions within their own countries. and that is stipulated in the atlantic alliance of nato itself. so until those con, frozen conflicts are resolved and they...
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only one of those was a nato state that it became to poland joined. then it became 5 with ukraine and ga, potentially joining that would be 7 with all the perks that carries like us bases and troops. pray tell how is that not the dictionary definition of encirclement russia is use a statement from high level officials as well as disinformation and propaganda outlets to intentionally spread outright falsehoods, to attempt to create a pretext for military action. we all know how the u. s. uses differ information to create a pretext for invading independence states. the irony seems lost entirely on the us state department, we still remember colon pow right sadam. hussein has not. verifiably accounted for even one teaspoonful of this deadly material. the chief of the state department. whether of all around 2 decades ago, lying to the world, about saddam's weapons of mass destruction. and setting the stage for the invasion of iraq, which killed an estimated half a 1000000 people. because i don't believe that russia has come close to that level of misinform
only one of those was a nato state that it became to poland joined. then it became 5 with ukraine and ga, potentially joining that would be 7 with all the perks that carries like us bases and troops. pray tell how is that not the dictionary definition of encirclement russia is use a statement from high level officials as well as disinformation and propaganda outlets to intentionally spread outright falsehoods, to attempt to create a pretext for military action. we all know how the u. s. uses...
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they know that so nobody really wants ukraine to join nato. oh, even within nato, but they can't say it so nobody can lose face. and that is what needs to happen into negotiation. searching. we need to find they need to find a solution between russia and nato. to so that nobody was his face, but that the ukraine never change nato. and what are the chances of that happening? i mean, of course, everybody agrees. they need to find a solution along those lines. but when you look at the reality, i mean not very difficult, isn't it? to find a solution that sort of takes all the boxes for everybody. yes, but many experts are quite optimistic. oh, nothing will happen around ukraine. they say for the coming month. and then after 23 months, america will say, see, they haven't all attacked. thanks to our firmness. we americans have been firm. and so russia is not attack. and so then only then could america make concessions. and if they start, then to make concessions in the summer, they could prepare a meeting between the hands to state between mr. biden
they know that so nobody really wants ukraine to join nato. oh, even within nato, but they can't say it so nobody can lose face. and that is what needs to happen into negotiation. searching. we need to find they need to find a solution between russia and nato. to so that nobody was his face, but that the ukraine never change nato. and what are the chances of that happening? i mean, of course, everybody agrees. they need to find a solution along those lines. but when you look at the reality, i...
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well, this was the whole point of the nato russia funding act of 1997. this very explicit promise committed not putting metal to permit troops in eastern europe. and now they're saying, no, no, this goes against our principle. well, it both ways you can find an agreement, you know, on tenure, p security one, control there, and then say, well this goes against our principal. so all the agreements we find other. so it's very, very strange discussions. and i think it's good to get to get some of this out in the front because it, to me, it doesn't make any sense of a united option reflected that, you know, essentially nato is just the propaganda machine. ok that because that's what it invest a lot of money and, and is going is rightly pointed out it, it just creates all these false bind aries ok. and it in my mind that's intentional because they have no intention of recognizing rushes from national security interest. the 22nd before we go to the break, george yet pointed out, i mean, they are expansionist, which means that by definition they are not offensiv
well, this was the whole point of the nato russia funding act of 1997. this very explicit promise committed not putting metal to permit troops in eastern europe. and now they're saying, no, no, this goes against our principle. well, it both ways you can find an agreement, you know, on tenure, p security one, control there, and then say, well this goes against our principal. so all the agreements we find other. so it's very, very strange discussions. and i think it's good to get to get some of...
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we asked what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato, eastward expansion, and what are the likely outcomes for both? ah, cross knocking nato russia. tensions i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army and counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington. we have michael ma loop. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now, he is an expert at the russian council on international affairs, as well as chief editor at r t t dot com, all right, general, across our rules and effects, that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. let's go to charles 1st in london, and i'm really sick and tired of all the misinformation and propaganda that is being spewed about these growing tension. there are tensions, there's no doubt about that. ok. but how they're being characterized is really important for us on this program. to set straight. so charles, i asked 3 questions in my introduction, what is, what is nato up to? what is the gambit her
we asked what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato, eastward expansion, and what are the likely outcomes for both? ah, cross knocking nato russia. tensions i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army and counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington. we have michael ma loop. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now, he is an expert at the russian...
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to say that nato was bad. now the said you have all these republicans except for rand paul, i think the only one who's come out and said, no native nato. nate, we need to back it up. why do you believe that the republicans as much as the democrats are agreeing on this one issue that they need to actually be more aggressive in this area? did they love nato now because they didn't love it under donald trump? no, they didn't. anything that donald trump loved they hate and vice versa. here's the problem. nato is kind of outlived its usefulness and rise. nato countries won't even agree to spending the minimum amount they're obligated to. the north atlantic treaty on defense. the germans have effectively left nato because they won't even license the artillery to go from estonia to ukraine. the, the germans or the germans don't spend what they should, the germans are out for their own interests. they're, they're big. remember, whole point of need. so right after world war 2 is of, was the french used to say it was to
to say that nato was bad. now the said you have all these republicans except for rand paul, i think the only one who's come out and said, no native nato. nate, we need to back it up. why do you believe that the republicans as much as the democrats are agreeing on this one issue that they need to actually be more aggressive in this area? did they love nato now because they didn't love it under donald trump? no, they didn't. anything that donald trump loved they hate and vice versa. here's the...
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no nato nations. well, i know the incident, your furniture, which was, i think it was a nato bombings. he was plain, but the nato bombing off serbia, in the run up to the war to, to, to liberate cost of. i was already turned into a mistake and i was a bad mistake and the chinese responded really quite dramatically to it. and i hope that nato learned from that mistake, but it wasn't america or nato attacking china. it was an error in the course of a war which was entirely justified given what the service of doing it was over at the time. well, there's all this talk about an alleged chinese intelligence agent here in westminster, in the house of commons. christine lee, you're a diplomat. what do you make of britain saying? they're not going to send diplomats to the wind to games in china as the global. so there's vladimir putin arrives there. a good idea? no, i think it's a mistake. i mean, you get to choose a slee stub. we don't do to see your choices, the snob, anybody, but you certainly don't good ch
no nato nations. well, i know the incident, your furniture, which was, i think it was a nato bombings. he was plain, but the nato bombing off serbia, in the run up to the war to, to, to liberate cost of. i was already turned into a mistake and i was a bad mistake and the chinese responded really quite dramatically to it. and i hope that nato learned from that mistake, but it wasn't america or nato attacking china. it was an error in the course of a war which was entirely justified given what...
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we need to be in nato now. meet on and now he's beginning to realize the cost of getting an a nato is his head. okay. and a good and maybe chunks of his country. i mean, he's the hall guy and all this. i think he's begun to finally realize that, okay, we don't know what kind of control over is intelligence agencies or the military, patrick. your answer, survey lover of illustrated a good point to this, to this effect in his response to anthony blink and white paper and nato's white paper. it's good that they're passing papers around by the way, right now that's better rather not to be public. missiles and bombs. but again, i said, look, you can't, you can't guarantee that the ukrainian military is a unified organization. in other words, there are paramilitary units, or you know, far right paramilitary units, which aren't under the direct control all the time of one single unified apparatus . so if you look at, when you ramp up tensions and you have a potential for either a false flag or an image, 17 style event or gulf of tonkin type, a miscommunication that might be intentional in fa
we need to be in nato now. meet on and now he's beginning to realize the cost of getting an a nato is his head. okay. and a good and maybe chunks of his country. i mean, he's the hall guy and all this. i think he's begun to finally realize that, okay, we don't know what kind of control over is intelligence agencies or the military, patrick. your answer, survey lover of illustrated a good point to this, to this effect in his response to anthony blink and white paper and nato's white paper. it's...
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been trying to get nato on the same page to talk about pan european security. i watched the presser is law, and blinking, blinking has moved though, got a little bit in the right direction, but not very far in my opinion. like as i said in my introduction, basically nothing has been done. but i think it's also fair to say that washington can't say it doesn't know what it wants is they love to say your assessment. go ahead. no, i agree. and i think it the way the meeting began kind of demonstrated the well how far apart there were and not even discussing the same thing. because when moscow met with the washington bay, the main discussion, while americans came prepared to speak about the crane and effectively for the russians, they said no, well, the crane is a symptom of a broader problem we've had for the last 3 years, which is there is no pan european security system and there are no on european security agreements and more that works so, so they want to highlight this principle that, well, this main main tension, which is, you know, we have 2 different princi
been trying to get nato on the same page to talk about pan european security. i watched the presser is law, and blinking, blinking has moved though, got a little bit in the right direction, but not very far in my opinion. like as i said in my introduction, basically nothing has been done. but i think it's also fair to say that washington can't say it doesn't know what it wants is they love to say your assessment. go ahead. no, i agree. and i think it the way the meeting began kind of...
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the only thing about nato unity, nato unity. well, the more they talk about it, the more i have to wonder if that unity is really kind of been because once the 1st missile is fired, then the sanction start up. and if you look at how the sanctions could be applied, the biggest loser will be europe. it won't be russian because russia used to sanctions. it's been 8 years now. a sanctions, me since 2014, i can tell you, the average person hasn't felt that in russia. i live here. ok. but europeans will throw in rush out of the switch system. so is russia going to give oil and gas for free? i mean, if there's no switch system, how are they going, how would the europeans able to pay for it? they can, has anybody bought this through? right. that's such an important point. peter, about europe. and you know, there's the europe of the establishment, and then there's the europe of the people. and when you think about what's happened in the last 20 years, the u. s. cancel the abm treaty and put and has said that that was really the beginning
the only thing about nato unity, nato unity. well, the more they talk about it, the more i have to wonder if that unity is really kind of been because once the 1st missile is fired, then the sanction start up. and if you look at how the sanctions could be applied, the biggest loser will be europe. it won't be russian because russia used to sanctions. it's been 8 years now. a sanctions, me since 2014, i can tell you, the average person hasn't felt that in russia. i live here. ok. but europeans...
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without nato. the other issue is, of course, on sanctions heading into these talks, the united states once again threatened possible new sanctions against russia, saying that these would be targeted financial institutions, really trying to hit russia where it hurts. it says those would be put in place if russia invades ukraine and accusation that the u. s. has been bonding about 4 months now, talking about massive increases of russian troops near the ukrainian border. now, russia has denied this over and over saying it's not going to invade ukraine, and that was once again what we heard from the deputy minister this evening here in geneva that absolutely not russia is not intending to invade ukraine and that the sanctions are just not helpful, there's something that in nobody wins if we continue putting those sanctions, i want to talk a little bit more about what's happening in these discussions with my guess. now i want to, i welcome game it on to the program. thanks very much. joining us. i switc
without nato. the other issue is, of course, on sanctions heading into these talks, the united states once again threatened possible new sanctions against russia, saying that these would be targeted financial institutions, really trying to hit russia where it hurts. it says those would be put in place if russia invades ukraine and accusation that the u. s. has been bonding about 4 months now, talking about massive increases of russian troops near the ukrainian border. now, russia has denied...
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other nato members are also wrapping up weapons supplies. the key if the functional police vote is enough to scroll through a couple of random pages to be sure none of the provisions stand on any critical analysis. in many cases, it is simply a nice nice conference after the talk. so again, louder offer lashes out at us officials and mainstream media pushing fresh on proven claims against moscow. examine those claim to lay this out with love from moscow. thanks for joining us. all the international this evening on daniel hawkins. wherever you are, welcome to the program at the top diplomats of russia and the u. s. i finished their security talks in switzerland as tensions are we, ukraine, remain high. washington is expected to provide moscow with a written response to the problems concerns. next week he's be to all the reports from geneva. so rob, so here in geneva, and we've now got a much clearer picture of exactly how both the us and russian side see these talks having gone. we heard from said again are for off the russian foreign ministe
other nato members are also wrapping up weapons supplies. the key if the functional police vote is enough to scroll through a couple of random pages to be sure none of the provisions stand on any critical analysis. in many cases, it is simply a nice nice conference after the talk. so again, louder offer lashes out at us officials and mainstream media pushing fresh on proven claims against moscow. examine those claim to lay this out with love from moscow. thanks for joining us. all the...
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about what he had received from nato. however, or to lug nut fornia. in contrast to what we've received from nato, the american response is almost like a model of diplomatic decency. the response from nato is so ideological, it breeze so much with the exclusivity of the north atlantic alliance that i was a little ashamed of those who wrote these taxes. previously, we had heard from other officials that the documents, the counter proposal sent by the united states. i didn't address a single one of russia's concerns that they made no promises that they threw expand further east of the ultimately that those, and no guarantees that those missiles, they to missiles american missiles, of wouldn't be stationed ever closer to russia. nevertheless, he says there is some optimism varies, the negotiation, there are talks that are ongoing and perhaps a solution might be reached a solution which satisfies both the united states and russia. nevertheless, we must account. he says, for relations relations, which for years i have a deteri
about what he had received from nato. however, or to lug nut fornia. in contrast to what we've received from nato, the american response is almost like a model of diplomatic decency. the response from nato is so ideological, it breeze so much with the exclusivity of the north atlantic alliance that i was a little ashamed of those who wrote these taxes. previously, we had heard from other officials that the documents, the counter proposal sent by the united states. i didn't address a single one...
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we were told in the lead up to the nato intervention in libya. but let's not be too hard on news guard. after all, they themselves admit these labels are not a measure of factual accuracy. they only label websites that they determined to have a hidden agenda are green red radio signal if a web site is trying to get it right. or instead has a hidden agenda. war knowingly publishes falsehoods or propaganda getting readers more context about their news on line. so it's not about what's really true and what's not true. it's about if you're telling the truth with good intentions or whether or not you're telling the truth in a way that might stir up some trouble. now one of the founders is gordon cravens, say, former columnist for the wall street journal. his reporting on the and as a and edward snowden has been widely criticized and it appears he was trying to spin things as not so bad on the part of the american government. and then there's richard stengel. he worked at the state department as public affairs chief under barack obama. now he must be t
we were told in the lead up to the nato intervention in libya. but let's not be too hard on news guard. after all, they themselves admit these labels are not a measure of factual accuracy. they only label websites that they determined to have a hidden agenda are green red radio signal if a web site is trying to get it right. or instead has a hidden agenda. war knowingly publishes falsehoods or propaganda getting readers more context about their news on line. so it's not about what's really true...
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it's what a nato does as well. i think there will be some kind of short term agreement to ease the tension a bit, but a long term solution is out of the question from the stocks, if there would be some kind of what they call invasion, which i doubt very much there would there would be an extension of what they already did, some kind of economic sanctions or more persons on a or wanted listed or not. that will not get the visa. there will be for things frozen 1st. so there isn't, there will be nothing new. my big fear is an undecided aggression, which will be provoked, for example, by extreme writing nationalists in the ukraine to sort of get nato to get engaged. that, that good and then bold depends on how russia would react. now a civil sex assault case against britons. prince andrew is moving forward in the united states. a judge in new york has rejected the world, the royals attempt to dismiss the law st brought by virginia t. frank. we can get move. mason is now cross live to our correspondent, caliber shopping
it's what a nato does as well. i think there will be some kind of short term agreement to ease the tension a bit, but a long term solution is out of the question from the stocks, if there would be some kind of what they call invasion, which i doubt very much there would there would be an extension of what they already did, some kind of economic sanctions or more persons on a or wanted listed or not. that will not get the visa. there will be for things frozen 1st. so there isn't, there will be...
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earlier in the week, nato understands the principle of the indivisibility of security. selective nato applies a policy of containment against russia. moscow will have to take a counter with so not like joe coaches once again facing deportation just a day before the start of the australian open after the countries immigration minister revoked his visa for a 2nd time to be with our tea. his father claims the kobe vaccine bow is politically motivated. good morning. going to have you company watching the weekly here or naughty. gunfire has reportedly been heard in a texas synagogue hostage situation with police confirming that the suspect is dead after a swat team storm the building and all those held captive by the suspect. the government had made it out alive. according to the state governor, the host, the situation happened in the north west of the states as well as a swat team, the f b. i were present at the stand off, which lasted for an estimated 12 hours on saturday. now there was a live stream of the service at the synagogue running when the arm suspect entered, and apparently neg
earlier in the week, nato understands the principle of the indivisibility of security. selective nato applies a policy of containment against russia. moscow will have to take a counter with so not like joe coaches once again facing deportation just a day before the start of the australian open after the countries immigration minister revoked his visa for a 2nd time to be with our tea. his father claims the kobe vaccine bow is politically motivated. good morning. going to have you company...
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so what will happen if talks with ukraine and ga, continue from nato. nato understands the principle at the end of visibility of security selectively. in the eyes of nato, it exists only for members of the alliance, and nato won't take into account the security concerns of others. we firmly believe that the principle at the end of visibility of security should take into account the interests of all, and that attempts to build security against russia without russia's participation are due to failure. if nato applies a policy of containment against russia, moscow will have to take a counter with you through russia, also called the nato to stop sending training instructors and military equipment to ukraine as part of bits demands for d escalation. just to give you an idea of the u. s, which is a native member, has applied more than $2500000000.00 with security assistance to ukraine since 2014 . and this year, native force is a duty take part in many military drills in ukraine for russia. this is a serious issue. and the continued expansion of nato doesn't. it says, solve any issues for
so what will happen if talks with ukraine and ga, continue from nato. nato understands the principle at the end of visibility of security selectively. in the eyes of nato, it exists only for members of the alliance, and nato won't take into account the security concerns of others. we firmly believe that the principle at the end of visibility of security should take into account the interests of all, and that attempts to build security against russia without russia's participation are due to...
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and the united states and nato countries, whether ukraine is in nato or not, cannot use ukraine is a staging ground for advanced weapons and missiles, who would have a flight time to their targets in russia of just a couple minutes that this is a red line, this is not acceptable. and so clearly that because this is a whole sticking point, isn't it? as far as ukraine's concerned people who are the side of it, say, well, ukraine's a sovereign nation that you'd be able to do exactly what it wants to do and what, where it is. you know, we've, even if it's next door to russia, what is the argument, what is the strong argument that russia has say that ukraine shouldn't do that? well, let's just assume that the canadian government decided to have russia place advanced weapons at the u. s. canadian border, or let's say the mexican government did the same, or let's say cuba as happened in 1962. when the soviet union placed missiles in cuba and the united states took the world to the verge of thermo nuclear war, this would be unacceptable to the united states. so, the united states says on one
and the united states and nato countries, whether ukraine is in nato or not, cannot use ukraine is a staging ground for advanced weapons and missiles, who would have a flight time to their targets in russia of just a couple minutes that this is a red line, this is not acceptable. and so clearly that because this is a whole sticking point, isn't it? as far as ukraine's concerned people who are the side of it, say, well, ukraine's a sovereign nation that you'd be able to do exactly what it wants...
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good nato does not encircle russia. nato enlargement is not directed against russia. over the last 20 years old nato coalition potential has been a mass on its eastern flank. the lances expansion towards russian borders is accompanied by the creation earned modernization of military infrastructure. russia has 60 neighbors in the ninety's. only one of those was the nato state. that it became to poland joined, then it became 5 with ukraine and ga, potentially joining. that would be 7 with all the perks that carries like us bases and troops. pray tell how was that not the dictionary definition of encirclement. russia uses statement from high level officials, as well as disinformation and propaganda outlets to intentionally spread outright falsehoods, to attempt to create a pretext for military action. we all know how the u. s. uses differ information to create a pretext for invading independent states. the irony seems lost entirely on the us state department. we still remember collin bow, right. sadam. hussein has not verifiably accounted for even one teaspoonful of this
good nato does not encircle russia. nato enlargement is not directed against russia. over the last 20 years old nato coalition potential has been a mass on its eastern flank. the lances expansion towards russian borders is accompanied by the creation earned modernization of military infrastructure. russia has 60 neighbors in the ninety's. only one of those was the nato state. that it became to poland joined, then it became 5 with ukraine and ga, potentially joining. that would be 7 with all the...
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but, you know, nato is simply absolutely refusing to acknowledge this. and i think that that's kind of why goes into this mess because they do has just gone expanding sooner or later, russia was going to say, you know, already, i'm going to do something about this, you know, going again, want to go back to something i said the 1st part of the program here is that there's this seems to me we hear this mantra problems. don't worry. we're just a, just a depend alliance and say it over and over and over again is that it's on speed dial or something. but if you look what's coming out of european capitals like, you know, going to the new killer ops, you know, growing rush out of the switch system. you know, that's easy for somebody in washington, you know, in a think tank supper, you know, with air conditioning. but you know, the germans and the say, well, how we get to, how is russia? but it's, that was energy. i mean, you're me, european union countries. you know, the important 3rd of their energy from russia and it's only going to grow mean, throw them out
but, you know, nato is simply absolutely refusing to acknowledge this. and i think that that's kind of why goes into this mess because they do has just gone expanding sooner or later, russia was going to say, you know, already, i'm going to do something about this, you know, going again, want to go back to something i said the 1st part of the program here is that there's this seems to me we hear this mantra problems. don't worry. we're just a, just a depend alliance and say it over and over and...
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the nato and the head of nato. united states wants to constantly focus on ukraine, a member that is a country that's not even a member of nato here. and russia with a proposal to nato entity, united states were sent out in december. this is about pan european security. the americans just don't simply want to talk about that, but all they want to talk about is ukraine. a country that is not a member of nato. go ahead. well, you know, the few things i'd like to mention in this regard. one, if i were to use a sports analogy in the talks engineer, i would say that the talks produced, you know, like in football or soccer is because in the u. s. you, you to try to, to, to produce some free zones into which you can pass and from which you can score. so i think the talks rebuild that there are some free zones that the, the, the west side, the americans are tried to create. but these are not the results from which a can spore from which you can actually, you know, produce results in that sense. you know, the proposal was le
the nato and the head of nato. united states wants to constantly focus on ukraine, a member that is a country that's not even a member of nato here. and russia with a proposal to nato entity, united states were sent out in december. this is about pan european security. the americans just don't simply want to talk about that, but all they want to talk about is ukraine. a country that is not a member of nato. go ahead. well, you know, the few things i'd like to mention in this regard. one, if i...
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and they didn't want to see any more nato troops or nato hardware. in particular, we're looking at things like mis files there any close to rushes board is interesting to see how this pans out following those statements from un stalsen bug that well they onto your risk. perhaps they had been a couple of hours ago, whether there was going to be any potential invasion of ukraine by russia. he's all of a thanks for the update. that's why your correspondent piece all over them. and to thousands, before the nato chief spoke, russia, foreign minister spelled out clearly that the country does not want to war. so gala rob reiterated moscow position on escalating tensions with the west. however, he also noted moscow can't stand by watching its interests being ignored. and i've offset his thoughts during a 90 minute interview to rush in journalists. among them was ortiz, editor in chief margarita simone young. here's what mister love had to say. yes, this is alicia authorities configure, lets see willingly, if it depends on the russian federation, then there w
and they didn't want to see any more nato troops or nato hardware. in particular, we're looking at things like mis files there any close to rushes board is interesting to see how this pans out following those statements from un stalsen bug that well they onto your risk. perhaps they had been a couple of hours ago, whether there was going to be any potential invasion of ukraine by russia. he's all of a thanks for the update. that's why your correspondent piece all over them. and to thousands,...
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a nato. now even washington and kia, who are quite literally brothers in arms on to, on the same page, but then something that happened less than an hour and a half off to the see in an article group, it just disappeared. there was no trace any more bite and whipping up his theory about him in a wall and the landscape telling him to come down on its pace. what a pit? well, a slew of tweets from cnn people on a field about how the white house disputes, how the call wasn't a success. in fact, it was all just one big lie. whitehouse on biden's lensky call. anonymous sources are leaking falsehoods. president biden said that there is a distinct possibility that the russians could invade ukraine in larry reports of anything more different than that are completely false on hot on these heels. he also came out claiming that the original article was riddled with mistakes. dear colleagues, some reports regarding the content of the talks between presidents villa, dimmer zalinski and joe biden have appea
a nato. now even washington and kia, who are quite literally brothers in arms on to, on the same page, but then something that happened less than an hour and a half off to the see in an article group, it just disappeared. there was no trace any more bite and whipping up his theory about him in a wall and the landscape telling him to come down on its pace. what a pit? well, a slew of tweets from cnn people on a field about how the white house disputes, how the call wasn't a success. in fact, it...
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s. side that there wasn't really a unanimity amongst nato members. that the, the russian troops in the west of russia represented a potential invasion for such, all really, but the united states is desperate for a de escalation over this issue. because they really want to switch focus over towards china. this is quite a significant switch of pack though, because if you look at the way this message was put across in the last 2 months, well was put across very differently. us intelligence officials say russia could invade ukraine as soon as january. and that's because of russian troops that are mask on ukraine's borders were now at a stage where russia could at any point, watch an attack and ukraine. russia is the aggressor here. we will not accept the campaign. russia is waging since about its democratic neighbors against hilton berg also spoke in awful lot about the beefing up of nato forces in the east of the ally inside that committing troops towards deployment and the store troops being ready to deploy to the east. now also on friday was confirmed
s. side that there wasn't really a unanimity amongst nato members. that the, the russian troops in the west of russia represented a potential invasion for such, all really, but the united states is desperate for a de escalation over this issue. because they really want to switch focus over towards china. this is quite a significant switch of pack though, because if you look at the way this message was put across in the last 2 months, well was put across very differently. us intelligence...